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    <p>Hi Jim,</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Thank you for your feedback and your thoughs, I make some test
      for clarifying my experience ... <br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><b><font color="#ff0000"><u><font size="+1">On Solaris 11</font></u></font></b>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>root@soledg14:~# zpool create -O mountpoint=none -O
      compression=lz4 Testpool c0t60060160F4D0320042F89EFA1FF1E611d0<br>
      <br>
      root@soledg14:~# zpool list<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">Testpool            49.8G   122K  49.7G  
        0%  1.00x  ONLINE  -</font><br>
      rpool                278G  83.7G   194G  30%  1.00x  ONLINE  -<br>
      <br>
      root@soledg14:~# zfs list<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">Testpool                                        
        143K  49.0G    31K  none</font><br>
      Testpool/TestZones                                31K  49.0G   
      31K  /TestZones<br>
      <br>
      root@soledg14:~# zoneadm list -civ<br>
       - TestZone         configured  /TestZones/TestZone         
      solaris    excl<br>
      <br>
      root@soledg14:~# zoneadm -z TestZone install<br>
      The following ZFS file system(s) have been created:<br>
          Testpool/TestZones/TestZone<br>
      Progress being logged to
      /var/log/zones/zoneadm.20170212T140109Z.TestZone.install<br>
             Image: Preparing at /TestZones/TestZone/root.<br>
      <br>
       Install Log: /system/volatile/install.16565/install_log<br>
       AI Manifest: /tmp/manifest.xml.vvcbTb<br>
        SC Profile: /usr/share/auto_install/sc_profiles/enable_sci.xml<br>
          Zonename: TestZone<br>
      Installation: Starting ...<br>
      <br>
              Creating IPS image<br>
      Startup linked: 1/1 done<br>
              Installing packages from:<br>
                  solaris<br>
                      origin: 
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://oracle-oem-oc-mgmt-ops-proxy-edg:8002/IPS/">http://oracle-oem-oc-mgmt-ops-proxy-edg:8002/IPS/</a><br>
                  cacao<br>
                      origin: 
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://oracle-oem-oc-mgmt-ops-proxy-edg:8002/IPS/">http://oracle-oem-oc-mgmt-ops-proxy-edg:8002/IPS/</a><br>
                  mp-re<br>
                      origin: 
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://oracle-oem-oc-mgmt-ops-proxy-edg:8002/IPS/">http://oracle-oem-oc-mgmt-ops-proxy-edg:8002/IPS/</a><br>
                  opscenter<br>
                      origin: 
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://oracle-oem-oc-mgmt-ops-proxy-edg:8002/IPS/">http://oracle-oem-oc-mgmt-ops-proxy-edg:8002/IPS/</a><br>
      DOWNLOAD                                PKGS         FILES    XFER
      (MB)   SPEED<br>
      Completed                            285/285   55878/55878 
      479.8/479.8  5.9M/s<br>
      <br>
      PHASE                                          ITEMS<br>
      Installing new actions                   73669/73669<br>
      Updating package state database                 Done<br>
      Updating package cache                           0/0<br>
      Updating image state                            Done<br>
      Creating fast lookup database                   Done<br>
      Updating package cache                           4/4<br>
      Installation: Succeeded<br>
      <br>
              Note: Man pages can be obtained by installing
      pkg:/system/manual<br>
      <br>
       done.<br>
      <br>
              Done: Installation completed in 221.859 seconds.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
        Next Steps: Boot the zone, then log into the zone console
      (zlogin -C)<br>
      <br>
                    to complete the configuration process.<br>
      <br>
      Log saved in non-global zone as
/TestZones/TestZone/root/var/log/zones/zoneadm.20170212T140109Z.TestZone.install<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      root@soledg14:~# zfs list<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">Testpool                                            
        932M  48.1G    31K  none</font><br>
      Testpool/TestZones                                   931M 
      48.1G    32K  /TestZones<br>
      Testpool/TestZones/TestZone                          931M 
      48.1G    32K  /TestZones/TestZone<br>
      Testpool/TestZones/TestZone/rpool                    931M 
      48.1G    31K  /rpool<br>
      Testpool/TestZones/TestZone/rpool/ROOT               931M 
      48.1G    31K  legacy<br>
      Testpool/TestZones/TestZone/rpool/ROOT/solaris       931M  48.1G  
      847M  /TestZones/TestZone/root<br>
      Testpool/TestZones/TestZone/rpool/ROOT/solaris/var  84.3M  48.1G 
      83.4M  /TestZones/TestZone/root/var<br>
      Testpool/TestZones/TestZone/rpool/VARSHARE            31K 
      48.1G    31K  /var/share<br>
      Testpool/TestZones/TestZone/rpool/export              62K 
      48.1G    31K  /export<br>
      Testpool/TestZones/TestZone/rpool/export/home         31K 
      48.1G    31K  /export/home<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      So on Solaris 11 it allow you to install a zone even if the parent
      mountpoint = none <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font color="#ff0000"><b><u><font size="+1">Did also some test on
              OmniOS</font></u></b></font><br>
      <br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zfs list<br>
      NAME                                         USED  AVAIL  REFER 
      MOUNTPOINT<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">DATA                                        
        435G   774G    23K  /LXZones</font><br>
      DATA/Backup                                  432G   774G   432G 
      /Backup<br>
      DATA/LXMatterMost                            408M   774G   347M 
      /LXZones/LXMatterMost<br>
      DATA/Zones2                                 2,13G   774G    23K 
      /Zones2<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX                            959M   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/NGINX<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT                       959M   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export                 71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home            48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home/witte      25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/zbe                   959M   774G   959M 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona                         1,19G   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/Percona<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT                    1,19G   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export               71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home          48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home/witte    25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/zbe                1,19G   774G  1,19G 
      legacy<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zfs set mountpoint=none DATA<br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zfs list<br>
      NAME                                         USED  AVAIL  REFER 
      MOUNTPOINT<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">DATA                                        
        435G   774G    23K  none</font><br>
      DATA/Backup                                  432G   774G   432G 
      /Backup<br>
      DATA/LXMatterMost                            408M   774G   347M 
      none<br>
      DATA/Zones2                                 2,13G   774G    23K 
      /Zones2<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX                            959M   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/NGINX<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT                       959M   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export                 71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home            48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home/witte      25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/zbe                   959M   774G   959M 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona                         1,19G   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/Percona<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT                    1,19G   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export               71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home          48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home/witte    25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/zbe                1,19G   774G  1,19G 
      legacy<br>
      <br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zonecfg -z Test<br>
      Test: No such zone configured<br>
      Use 'create' to begin configuring a new zone.<br>
      zonecfg:Test> create<br>
      zonecfg:Test> set zonepath=/Zones2/Test<br>
      zonecfg:Test> info<br>
      zonecfg:Test> exit<br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zonecfg -z Test info<br>
      zonename: Test<br>
      zonepath: /Zones2/Test<br>
      brand: ipkg<br>
      autoboot: false<br>
      bootargs: <br>
      pool: <br>
      limitpriv: <br>
      scheduling-class: <br>
      ip-type: shared<br>
      hostid: <br>
      fs-allowed: <br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# <br>
    </p>
    <p>I'm not making here the filesytem DATA/Zones2/Test !!!!<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zfs list<br>
      NAME                                         USED  AVAIL  REFER 
      MOUNTPOINT<br>
      DATA                                         435G   774G    23K 
      none<br>
      DATA/Backup                                  432G   774G   432G 
      /Backup<br>
      DATA/LXMatterMost                            408M   774G   347M 
      none<br>
      DATA/Zones2                                 2,13G   774G    23K 
      /Zones2<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX                            959M   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/NGINX<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT                       959M   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export                 71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home            48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home/witte      25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/zbe                   959M   774G   959M 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona                         1,19G   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/Percona<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT                    1,19G   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export               71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home          48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home/witte    25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/zbe                1,19G   774G  1,19G 
      legacy<br>
      <br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zoneadm list -civ<br>
        ID NAME             STATUS     PATH                          
      BRAND    IP    <br>
         0 global           running    /                             
      ipkg     shared<br>
         - DNS              installed  /Zones/DNS                    
      lipkg    excl  <br>
         - LXDebian8        installed  /Zones/LXDebian8              
      lx       excl  <br>
         - LXMatterMost     installed  /LXZones/LXMatterMost         
      lx       excl  <br>
         - Percona          installed  /Zones2/Percona               
      lipkg    excl  <br>
         - NGINX            installed  /Zones2/NGINX                 
      lipkg    excl  <br>
         - Test             configured /Zones2/Test                  
      ipkg     shared<br>
    </p>
    <p>root@OmniOS:/root# zoneadm -z Test install<br>
      WARNING: zone LXMatterMost is installed, but its zonepath
      /LXZones/LXMatterMost does not exist.<br>
      Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation.<br>
      ERROR: the zonepath must be a ZFS dataset.<br>
      The parent directory of the zonepath must be a ZFS dataset so that
      the<br>
      zonepath ZFS dataset can be created properly.<br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# <br>
    </p>
    <p>On this point I had to uninstall the LXMatterMost zone because I
      set the mountpoint=none on the DATA pool and the LXMatterMost zone
      depend on the mountpoint=/LXZones of the DATA pool.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Then I also created a filesystem DATA/Zones2/Test</p>
    <p><br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zfs create -o mountpoint=/Zones2/Test
      DATA/Zones2/Test<br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zfs list<br>
      NAME                                         USED  AVAIL  REFER 
      MOUNTPOINT<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">DATA                                        
        435G   774G    23K  none</font><br>
      DATA/Backup                                  432G   774G   432G 
      /Backup<br>
      DATA/Zones2                                 2,13G   774G    23K 
      /Zones2<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX                            959M   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/NGINX<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT                       959M   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export                 71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home            48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home/witte      25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/zbe                   959M   774G   959M 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona                         1,19G   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/Percona<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT                    1,19G   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export               71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home          48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home/witte    25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/zbe                1,19G   774G  1,19G 
      legacy<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">DATA/Zones2/Test                             
        23K   774G    23K  /Zones2/Test</font><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>And now it is allowed to install the zone :)<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zoneadm -z Test install<br>
      /Zones2/Test must not be group readable.<br>
      /Zones2/Test must not be group executable.<br>
      /Zones2/Test must not be world readable.<br>
      /Zones2/Test must not be world executable.<br>
      /Zones2/Test: changing permissions to 0700.<br>
      Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation.<br>
             Image: Preparing at /Zones2/Test/root.<br>
      <br>
         Publisher: Using omnios
      (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pkg.omniti.com/omnios/r151020/">http://pkg.omniti.com/omnios/r151020/</a>).<br>
             Cache: Using /var/pkg/publisher.<br>
        Installing: Packages (output follows)<br>
      Packages to install: 388<br>
      Mediators to change:   1<br>
       Services to change:   5<br>
      <br>
      DOWNLOAD                                PKGS         FILES    XFER
      (MB)   SPEED<br>
      Completed                            388/388   37406/37406 
      332.0/332.0    0B/s<br>
      <br>
      PHASE                                          ITEMS<br>
      Installing new actions                   61025/61025<br>
      Updating package state database                 Done <br>
      Updating package cache                           0/0 <br>
      Updating image state                            Done <br>
      Creating fast lookup database                   Done <br>
      <br>
              Note: Man pages can be obtained by installing
      pkg:/system/manual<br>
       Postinstall: Copying SMF seed repository ... done.<br>
              Done: Installation completed in 93,895 seconds.<br>
      <br>
        Next Steps: Boot the zone, then log into the zone console
      (zlogin -C)<br>
                    to complete the configuration process<br>
      <br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zoneadm -z Test boot; zlogin -C Test<br>
      [Connected to zone 'Test' console]<br>
      Loading smf(5) service descriptions: 113/113<br>
      Hostname: Test<br>
      <br>
      Test console login: <br>
      <br>
      root@OmniOS:/root# zfs list<br>
      NAME                                         USED  AVAIL  REFER 
      MOUNTPOINT<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">DATA                                        
        435G   774G    23K  none</font><br>
      DATA/Backup                                  433G   774G   433G 
      /Backup<br>
      DATA/Zones2                                 2,66G   774G    24K 
      /Zones2<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX                            959M   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/NGINX<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT                       959M   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export                 71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home            48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/export/home/witte      25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/NGINX/ROOT/zbe                   959M   774G   959M 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona                         1,19G   774G    24K 
      /Zones2/Percona<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT                    1,19G   774G    23K 
      legacy<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export               71K   774G    23K 
      /export<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home          48K   774G    23K 
      /export/home<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/export/home/witte    25K   774G    25K 
      /export/home/witte<br>
      DATA/Zones2/Percona/ROOT/zbe                1,19G   774G  1,19G 
      legacy<br>
      <font color="#ff0000">DATA/Zones2/Test                            
        540M   774G    23K  /Zones2/Test<br>
        DATA/Zones2/Test/ROOT                        540M   774G    23K 
        legacy<br>
        DATA/Zones2/Test/ROOT/zbe                    540M   774G   540M 
        legacy</font><br>
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    <p>So that's why I ask the question :)</p>
    <p>In my opinion we miss some logic in the zoneadm, we don't need to
      set a parent mountpoint like i proof with above example.</p>
    <p>Maybe someone can have a look on the code it would be great to
      fix this, if I had the knowledge how to fix it it should be great,
      but I'm <span class="lemma-container"><span class="wordentry"
          id="word7">unfortunately </span></span>not so smart and
      intelligent as you guy's  sorry :( </p>
    <p>I wish ;)<br>
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    <p><br>
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    <p>Kind Regards,</p>
    <p><br>
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    <p>Dirk<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10-02-17 22:19, Jim Klimov wrote:<br>
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      <pre wrap="">9 февраля 2017 г. 18:09:04 CET, Dirk Willems <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dirk.willems@exitas.be"><dirk.willems@exitas.be></a> пишет:
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        <pre wrap="">Thanks Dan,


I just was wondering about it, because in Solaris it's allowed we do it

all the time and it's become a automatic behavior for us, but if we
know 
it we can arrange it like you do.


Thanks


On 09-02-17 17:41, Dan McDonald wrote:
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            <pre wrap="">On Feb 9, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Dirk Willems <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dirk.willems@exitas.be"><dirk.willems@exitas.be></a>
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        <pre wrap="">wrote:
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Hello OmniOS,

Why isn't allowed to install a LX-Zone or Zone if the DATA pool
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        <pre wrap="">doesn't have a mountpoint on the parent ?
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below example doesn't allow you to install a Zone or LX-Zone

root@OmniOS:/root# zfs list
NAME                           USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
DATA                           432G   777G    23K  none
DATA/Backup                    432G   777G   432G  /Backup
DATA/LXZones                    23K   777G    23K  /LXZones


below example does allow you to install a Zone or LX-Zone

root@OmniOS:/root# zfs list
NAME                           USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
DATA                           433G   776G    23K  /LXZones
DATA/Backup                    432G   776G   432G  /Backup
DATA/LXMatterMost              229M   776G   228M 
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        <pre wrap="">/LXZones/LXMatterMost
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It's kind ignoring because i like to make separated filesystems for
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        <pre wrap="">having a nice overview :)
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          <pre wrap="">All zones (not just LX) need to be a subdirectory of a higher-level
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        <pre wrap="">ZFS filesystem.  This is so zoneadm(1M) can create the zone root.
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bloody(~)[0]% zfs list | grep zones | grep -v zbe
data/zones                              3.90G   509G    23K  /zones
data/zones/lipkg0                       3.14G   509G    24K 
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        <pre wrap="">/zones/lipkg0
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          <pre wrap="">data/zones/lipkg0/ROOT                  3.14G   509G    23K  legacy
data/zones/lx0                           465M   509G   465M 
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        <pre wrap="">/zones/lx0
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          <pre wrap="">data/zones/lx1                           315M   509G   239M 
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        <pre wrap="">/zones/lx1
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          <pre wrap="">bloody(~)[0]%

My bloody box has zones name per their brand, so you can see what I
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        <pre wrap="">mean.
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Dan

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Just in case, do you not mistake zone roots here with delegated datasets (e.g. for data or local progs, but with zfs structure managed from inside the zone)? This is indeed usable even from different pools in solaris 10 up to openindiana at least.
--
Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android
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