<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> To whom it may concern I am new in this forum. Jakob Blond-Sorensen, CTO of Lean-On A/S Denmark Lean-On is a many year provider of an entire technology stack for optimized Citrix XenApp and Xendesktop use cases including high end Engineering remote desktop. As part of the Lean-On Application Accelerator Platform ™ - we use Illumos as storage provider to the solution. 40G,extreme ZIL, 512+ Gbyte RAM and 40-60 VDEVS of Enterprise SAS SSD The combination of Xendesktop and Illumos has brought us many good use cases – and happy customers. We are using OmniOS for High End Enterprise customers. We dispatch with just one single customer more data on a daily basis than a large Danish bank. Please see <a href="https://www.citrixatleanon.dk/">https://www.citrixatleanon.dk/</a> We have customers still using Nexenta and we have several customers using OmniOs. And we have a rather large Cloud platform in our datacenter based on OmniOS as storage provider. As such - We have a great setup working with HA, OmniOs and Napp-it. We are very sad to see Robert pulling the plug on OmniOs – and I had hoped that he instead had called for better backup rather than dropping the support OmniOs is a great concept – and a great platform.. and it’s an anchor used by a lot of the other distris… Some of these has been kind of hanging on the back of OmniOS…. Nice but not fair ! Dan/Robert has been doing a super job over the years – so the real reason must be around funding for Dan & Co and an irritation of others just using rather than participate financially or code wise. But I am not in Roberts shoes. Yesterday I was approached by GEA from Napp-it. He wanted to be sure that I was aware of the discussion… so he forwarded among others the link to the excel sheet for future funding of Illumos in some form – OmniOs or a new fork. It made me happy to see that several folks out there is seeking as we a way to continue the life of OmniOS. All of you – get your funding heart going ! For me – the obvious way is to have Dan continuing the great work – that has been going on for the last years. But I am not in his shoes either…and If Dan refuses to do so…who else will take on the job…. Suggestions ? I do not expect this to be a non paid for service. We need to create funding for the right people to secure the releases. Have no doubt – we would like to see someone to take over the things that Peter Tribble refers to… so that this great OS can grow and become a continued solid alternative to the proprietary stuff out there that we do not like. The faster this process can be executed upon – the better. Please feel free to contact me – I believe that if just Robert and a few others would throw some $ into the spreadsheet as well… we will see a funding fit for a solid community where some folks are paid for taking care of QA and Packaging. It might even be that Robert would change his mind J - and keep the baby. Anyway. I have included a abstract of my mail to Gea of last night To GEA April 27 - 2017 I have just added the amount that we see doable for continued support – but would like to emphasize that if a strong support can be enabled – then we are willing to increase our commitment. We are backing up any initiative that will handle a continued package and license like the Current setup including handling and support like Dan/Dale has been doing it for the last several years. We paid last year 10K for licensed support/Illumos releases + 150-200 $ /hour for support in case we had trouble. Our budget for the coming year is 2-3K$ / month + support hours of which we do not use many of. I think we prepaid 10 hours last year – and used maybe only 5 – the remaining unused 5 hours is lost. I have suggested Dan to continue the OmniOs distri like today or in any other form that you support as well. For me it is of importance that we have you GEA backing us as well. We expect that 2018- 2019 will raise the monthly amount to around 4-5K$ /month – maybe more if the setup looks promising. We only use OmniOs for storage – nothing else. Our wishes are indeed limited ! Some upgrade on ISCSI and configuration support for MPIO NFS for XenServer. Well – only using OmniOS for Storage is somewhat a shame but that is where we are at the moment. We are truly XenServer people due to us being CITRIX people… Windows App people with great skills in the CITRIX XenApp and XenDesktop world and Microsoft in general. !! So for all sorts of purposes – yes we will back up a continued OmniOS/OI/GEA/Dan/iLLUMOS or what ever people wants to do… as long as you support it… and that a ready to deploy package, QA is in place I really like what Dan has done – and I would like to stress that I would like to see him in the game going forward. But at the end of the day - any relative secure setup is fine for us. We are not specialist in OmniOS – so the “only” thing we can bring into the discussion is funding… limited but steady funding. Since we have no deep skills in ZFS – we rather pay the community for that service as long as our customers can get their ISCSI and NFS with the speed of ZIL and ARC/L2ARC. And for anyone who wishes to involve us – we are: Lean-On A/S Industriparken 4 2750 Ballerup Denmark Jakob Blond-Sorensen, CTO <a href="mailto:jbs@lean-on.com">jbs@lean-on.com</a> Mobile +45 22106554 Fra: OmniOS-discuss [mailto:omnios-discuss-bounces@lists.omniti.com] På vegne af Peter Tribble Sendt: 27. april 2017 22:07 Til: Robert Treat Cc: omnios-discuss Emne: [NEWSENDER] - Re: [OmniOS-discuss] The Future of OmniOS <div> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:21 AM, Robert Treat <<a href="mailto:robert@omniti.com">robert@omniti.com</a>> wrote: <div> <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> I hope the answer to the best safest place is OmniOS. To that end, we have no plans to stop running OmniOS at this time, and presuming the project can make the jump to community maintainership, we won't need to develop any. </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> <div> So, assuming such a jump were to happen, what are we talking about? </div> <div> (My comments here, btw, are from me as an illumos community member and maintainer of another distro, rather than as an OmniOS customer.) </div> <div> </div> <div> Some items: The OmniOS name/brand The website/wiki The illumos-omnios fork (the code) The github repos (the infrastructure) The pkg repo servers </div> <div> What happens to those? The real question here is whether they stay, </div> <div> with community maintainership, or whether the "new" regime is an </div> <div> independent fork? I would guess the latter to be the safest course. </div> <div> That's assuming a world in which OmniOS-whatever remains as a separate </div> <div> entity, rather than taking the view that you throw it away and replace it with </div> <div> a stable branch of some other distro. I'm not entirely convinced that would </div> <div> (a) actually work, and (b) not compromise the other distro. </div> <div> </div> <div> So that gives you a newly forked project that maintains a distro based </div> <div> on the current OmniOS code (preserving the effort that the likes of Dan have put in to get LX running), pulling in updates from illumos </div> <div> and the other upstreams, with the same sort of release cadence </div> <div> and update approach (so you know you're going to get security updates) we have at the moment. </div> <div> Ignoring the who and how for now, would that be what people actually want? </div> <div> Or are people looking for a different future? </div> <div> </div> <div> My personal (illumos/Tribblix) selfishness here is twofold; first, I want </div> <div> to ensure we keep the current codebase as a going concern (as an unmaintained museum it's not interesting), and secondly an active project shows the health of the illumos ecosystem in a better light. </div> <div> -- <div> -Peter Tribble <a href="http://www.petertribble.co.uk/">http://www.petertribble.co.uk/</a> - <a href="http://ptribble.blogspot.com/"> http://ptribble.blogspot.com/</a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>